Our universal disappointment in the impossibility of time travel certainly accounts for the appeal of watching film clips from crucial points in history. I'm especially keen on things that I missed during my childhood era. Seeing them now that I'm bigger is really satisfying finally, able to understand the secret world of those grown ups. It's like waiting 35 years for the other shoe to drop and it finally does.
The word "Dylan" flew around with such import when I was a kid. It was spoken with gravity but completely eluded my understanding. Today I rented Dylan Speaks, the 1965 press conference he gave in San Francisco and I saw some of the iceberg for which Bob Dylan was, to his bemusement, the tip, a clue of new-stirring mid 60's tidal motions.
In the Q & A, Bob Dylan speaks plainly and unspectacularly, gently confirming that, if people want to make him a Johnny Bravo, they can do that, but he doesn't want to wear the suit, he just wants to make songs. He sits at a microphone and ashtray, facing a couple dozen people and an enormous KQED TV camera.His interviewers are mostly unhip cats, mostly not his peers. Everyone engages each other with more respect and less ridiculousness than I would have predicted. Bob shows up with a tweed suit, broach-not-a-tie, and a pack of Marlboros. For the first 20 minutes every answer he gives is a 5 word sentence. At most. He mumbles at the table, gives a little laugh, and fumbles for another cigarette. He's exactly as uncomfortable as I am in the center of an attentive circle. It opens up quite a bit after that.
Watching this in 2007 we laugh as the men in suits look for the meaning.
What are your songs about?
Are you trying to be the most famous man in the world?
You really just want to be rich, right?
They're' all attempts to analyze this folkie / youth culture thing, prodding him because it's easier than prodding 21 million young adults coast to coast.
We would never care to do this now. We now know youth culture is no threat to anything whatsoever and is a harbinger of nothing at all,. really just a record label, a shoe style, and a face on a magazine. Nothing that the brylcreemed man running Exxon need take any note of.. But who knew back in 1965.
Watching the interview you could paint 5 or 6 completely different pictures of Dylan from his mix of serious and joking things he says. His statements are calm, patient, a bit bored, but pretty good taken as a whole piece of work. There's little worth quoting here but the whole thing can be consumed to great insight, the context and rhythm of the encounter bearing much of the message. I found it engrossing, all 50 minutes. It can be watched to great result if you seek the gestalt of 1965 America.
I jotted down a few quotes anyway:
"Mr. Dylan, I know you dislike labels.
For those of us who are, uh, well over 30, could you label yourself and perhaps tell us what your role is."
"Well, I'd label myself as 'well under 30'. (Audience laughter.)
And my role is to just stay here as long as I can."
Bob why not sing your old songs anymore (Girl from the North Country, Talkin WWIII Blues, Bob Dylan’s Blues, Blowing in the Wind, etc)
I just consider them something from another time. It would be kind of dishonest for me to sing them now.
“Are you considering any further radical changes to your music?”
“Writing a symphony.”
(stops for four seconds to gauge the response. Noone laughs, he sees he's being taken seriously. he elaborates) "with different melodies, different words, different ideas all being the same, that all roll on top of each other and underneath each other" [so the whole Tommy idea was just generally in the air.back then..] “People complain my songs are pretty long now. At some point maybe I’ll just get to where I put out, an album consisting of one long song.”
“Do you prefer songs to have an obvious message? Everyone says your songs are subtle.”
“Where'd you read that.”
The questioner, a very awkward teenager, obviously a daughter that tagged along says “In a movie magazine.”
(general laughter. Girl melts into her chair.)
“What do you think of question and answer sessions like this one?”
“I don’t know. I really can't take it seriously.
We all have a different idea of the words we'r using
If I say 'house' we’re both going to see a different house. If I just say that one word. So we're using all these other words...mass production, movie magazine. We all have a diff idea of these words too so I dont really know what we're saying here.”
“Is it pointless?”
“No, it's not pointless. If you want to do it, it doesn't hurt me any. (Then half-facetiously) All my songs basically say is 'Good luck.' They all tail off at the end with good luck, hope you make it.”
“You started out so quiet today. It made me feel like you were doing a kind of penance of silence here.”
“Writing songs and performing them, that's what I do. Anything else, interferes with it. Trying to get on top of it and make something out of it that it isn't, it just brings me down. It makes it all seem very cheap.”.
UPDATE: MICHIKO KAKUTANI writing in today's obituary of Norman Mailer observes that the 1960s were " a decade so surreal, so stupefying, so confounding, in the
view of some, that it surpassed anything a novelist might plausibly
imagine."
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